An interview.

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An Excerpt from the Hindi Translation of Tabish Khair's The Bus Stopped

felst+ ehjpankuh “kk;n dqN vkSj dguk pkg jgh Fkha ij cl ,d >Vds ds lkFk #d x;h---vkSj irk ugha dgk¡ ls ,d fQjaxh ySnj dh vVSph dks lhus ls yxk;s cl ij p<+kA lc yksxksa us mls iyV dj ns[kk---;g tjk vthc fdLe dk fQjaxh Fkk---vkerkSj ij ^ik;s tkus okys* fgfIi;ksa dh rjg ugha Fkk---tks vDlj yksdy clksa vkSj Vªsuksa ij fey tkrs gSa---vkSj lp dgw¡ rks irk ugha bruh cgqrk;r esa D;ksa fey tkrs gSaA\ [kSj] ;g mudh rjg ugha FkkA ;g muesa ls Fkk tks ,vj&daMh”kUM VSfDl;ksa esa pyrs gSaA

      [kSj] og f>>drs gq;s vUnj vk;k] fgpdrs gq;s vkl&ikl ns[kk vkSj ekuks okfil Hkkxus gh okyk Fkk fd dUMDVj us gekjs ikl cSBs gq;s x¡okj dks ?kqM+dh nh]

      ^^rqEgsa vxys LVki ij mrjuk gS u!\∙∙---rks pyks] txg NksM+ks!!**

      xk¡o okys us txg NksM+h rks fQjaxh ogk¡ vueuk lk cSB gh x;kA vVSph ds dsl dks dldj vius iSjksa esa nckdj cSB x;k vkSj xqBuksa dk rkyk yxk fn;k rkfd dksbZ pksj mls pqjk u ik;sA oSls Hkh] bl rjhds dh cl esa T+;knkrj yksx mls pksj&mpDds gh ut+j vk jgs gksaxsA

      “kk;n mls vdcjkckn ls VSDlh idM+uh Fkh] D;ksafd mldh dkj chp esa gh [kjkc gks x;h FkhA ge mls crk ldrs Fks fd og vdcjkckn ls VSDlh ugha idM+ ik;sxk] D;ksafd vdcjkckn esa VSDlh feyrh gh ughaA ogk¡ dqN frifg;k okgu feyrs gSa&vkWVks fjD”kk&tks lk/kkj.kr% nw/k Hkjs duLrjksa vkSj eqfxZ;ksa Hkjs MCcksa ls Hkjs gq;s gksrs gSa---vkSj dHkh&dHkh pyrs&pyrs iwjs ds iwjs iyV tkrs gSa&gkykafd ,sls gknlksa esa fdlh dks T;knk pksV ugha vkrhA

      vdcjkckn vk x;kA HkhM+&HkkM+ okys <kcs ds cxy esa ge yksx #dsA efD[k;ksa dh fHku&fHkukgV us lky esa bl le; Hkh ekgkSy dks “kksj&”kjkcs okyk cuk gh j[kk FkkA flj ds Åij fctyh ds rkjksa dh jsyeisy&ns[k dj irk yxrk Fkk fd vdcjkckn] ,d dLck ;k dfg;s] ,d ^NksVk “kgj* FkkA VSªDVj] vkWVks&fjD”kk] Bsys] [kPpj&xkfM+;k¡] dkjksa ds v/khj gkuZ] ^fVªu& fVªu* lkbZfdyksa dh HkhM+---vkSj bu lcds chp esa gekjh cM+h lh cl---ekuks jkLrs dh jkuh! lM+d ds fdukjs nks nqdkunkj FksA dqN mcys v.Ms] elkyksa vkSj I;kt+ ds yPNksa ds lkFk vius xzkgdksa dh Hkw[k “kkUr dj jgk Fkk] rks nwljh rjQ ,d NksVs ls LVkso ij e[kkus Hkwurh gqbZ ,d vkSjr] dkxt ds f=dks.k cukdj] csp jgh FkhA

      ^^,s! ;g dksbZ QksdV dh ljdkjh cl fn[krh gS D;k!!\---eq¡g mBk;k vkSj pys vk;s\**&cl esa ?kqlus okys fHk[kkjh dks dUMDVj vkSj Dyhuj us tksj ls QVdkj yxkbZA fQj gekjs dUMDVj dks felst+ ehjpUnkuh dh esgekuuokt+h dk [;ky vk;k vkSj gjh pVuh ds ikuh esa Hkhxs gq;s nks xhys ls leksls mlus cgqr I;kj ls felst+ ehjpUnkuh ds lkeus ijksls vkSj muls iSls Hkh ugha fy;s---og leksls eSaus Hkh [kk;sA

      ---vkSj bu lcds chp og fQjaxh ckgj VSDlh ryk”k jgk Fkk---gkFk esa vVSph dk dsl dl dj Fkkes gq;s og cl esa Fkd gkj dj okfil p<+k---tkfgj Fkk] mls VSDlh ugha fey ik;h FkhA dUMDVj us mldh lhV lqjf{kr j[kh gq;h FkhA vkf[kjdkj Fkddj cspkjs fQjaxh us flj viuh ck¡gksa esa Nqik fy;k---ilhus esa Hkhxh deht+] fldqM+k gqvk /kwy ls xUnk gqvk dksV] mldh ekufld vkSj “kkjhfjd nqnZ”kk dks c[kwch fn[kk jgk Fkk---;w¡ rks bruh xehZ esa dksV iguus dk dksbZ eryc ugha Fkk] ij vUnj iguh gq;h xqykch deht+ dks eVeSyh gksus esa nks feuV ls T+;knk ugha yxrk vxj mlus og dksV iguk u gksrkA

      b/kj] og yM+dk tks x;k cl LVkWi ij cl esa p<+k Fkk&vjs ogh ftls] eSaus mlds gkFk esa ml egaxh lkM+h dh otg ls igpkuk Fkk---dwn dj fQjaxh ds cxy esa vk dj cSB x;k vkSj jVh&jVk;h vaxzst+h esa dqN ckrsa djus dh dksf”k”k djus yxkA ;g csjrrhch ls vkdf’kZr djus dh ,d cs<axh vkSj ukdke dksf”k”k gh Fkh D;ksafd fQjaxh fcYdqy [kkeks”k jgk vkSj gk¡&gw¡ esa flj fgykdj gYds ls tokc fn;kA “kk;n mls yM+ds dh ckr le> esa gh ugha vk;h gksxh ;k “kk;n mls irk gksxk fd blls T+;knk vaxzst+h dh dkfcfy;r mlesa Fkh gh ughaA

      [kSj] felst+ ehjpankuh us eq>ls iwNk] ^^---i<+h&fy[kh rks gks u csVh\** ^^---th] ch0,0---**

      tokc rks ns fn;k---ij eSa ch0,0 ugha Fkh---cl Ldwy xbZ Fkh] fy[kuk] i<+uk tkurh Fkh---ch0,0 ikl Hkh rks bruk gh dj ldrs FksA

      ^^yM+fd;ksa dks i<+k&fy[kk gksuk pkfg;s---gekjh iqjkru laLd`fr esa Hkh fL=;k¡ i<+h&fy[kh gksrh FkhaA**

      ^^ikSa&ikSa&ikSa∙∙∙---fVªu& fVªu] fVªu& fVªu---vjs! gVks∙∙∙---cpks!!! Dh vkokt+ksa ds chp cl vdcjkckn LVkWi ls vkxs c<+h vkSj ^^Nikd!** ls xUns ikuh ds ,d fNNys ls ukys dks ikj djrh gq;h vkxs pyh---ikuh ds cqycqys ihNs QwVrs jgs vkSj ge lw[ks [ksrksa ds iFkjhys] lM+dh lhus dks phjrs gq;s vkxs c<+ pysA

      ^^vkxs tuckgk gS!∙∙∙---tuckgk&”ksjiqj&foykliqj&QUlk!!∙∙ tuckgk& ”ksjiqj & foykliqj&QUlk∙∙∙A---** dUMDVj cnLrwj fpYyk jgk FkkA